Deep in the Realm of Conscience 宮心計2:深宮計 TVB Review

Hello everyone!

Today we’re going to be writing a review on Deep in the Realm of Conscience, one of TVB’s most anticipated dramas of the year which was produced in cooperation with Tencent Penguin Pictures. With its big budget for new costumes and set designs, producer Mui Siu-ching’s return, along with new ‘big name’ actresses Annie Liu and Chrissie Chau, this was supposed to wow audiences.



We’re gonna give some general thoughts and then move into the performances of the cast. Warning that there are spoilers ahead!

General thoughts:

As expected, the sequel was not as good as the first series, Beyond the Realm of Conscience, but it was not a terrible series that made us want to shut off the tv right away. If anything, it was not at all associated with BTROC and would have been better if it was made a separate entity so there would be no need to meet the expectations created by the success of BTROC. The main problem of the show was it tried to emulate bits and pieces of BTROC and was so reliant on the what they perceived the audience used to enjoy watching that it could not be labelled anything better than its prequel’s mere “replicate”.

The first episode had us pretty confused because usually in historical dramas, the name and title of the character are provided as they appear in the drama, like in Succession War. This was not the case for DITROC and because we were out of touch with our Chinese history, we were left pretty confused. As the drama progressed and with aid of Wikipedia, we soon learnt the role everyone played.

As well, for a drama focused on selling its grandeur to the audience, we found the small amount of characters and lack of extras as palace maids and guards made the drama seem much less impressive. It was dry seeing only 10 or so characters in an episode including Steven, Kenneth, Edwin, Nancy, Annie, Alice, and whoever else like the Emperor, Chrissie in the last half, Jacqueline Wong, or the 4 department heads. Near the end of its airing when Succession War was starting to air, the juxtaposition of the two ancient dramas proved Succession War to be altogether more serious with plenty of extras and more intense pacing of events, as opposed to the repetitive and rather sluggish scenes in DITROC.

DITROC focused too much on extravagant costumes and sets that consequently led to an under-developed plot and use of characters. In fact, the costumes and accessories felt too excessive - though they were undeniably beautiful - that it detracted the audience’s focus at times. We expected some great, deep schemes as it was called 深宮計, but we didn’t feel there was too much plotting against one another within the palace, and it was mainly Wang Zhen (Nancy Wu) who had a few schemes, but none of them were too brilliant and people could guess right away that it was her doing. With the main villain of the drama being Princess Taiping (Alice Chan), in the end it got quite boring between her competition with the Emperor.

An issue we had with this drama was the Emperor/ Li Longji(Steven Ma) only had two buddies: Yum Sam-shu (Kenneth Ma) and Ho Lei (Edwin Siu) who acted as the Emperor’s best friends, confidants, personal assistants, etc.  Really, Kenneth playing this all-inclusive role would have sufficed, and instead, we would have liked to seen Ho Lei acting as a foil to Sam-shu’s loyal part by continuing in his revenge plot against the royal family. That would have added an interesting element, seeing that it was quite drab with the repeated brotherly scenes working together to solve mysteries or fight against Taiping’s plots against the Emperor. It would have been better if other noblemen were included in the running of the country.

The same sisterly triangle was paralleled on the female side with Yuen Yuet (Annie Liu), Concubine Zheng Chunxi (Chrissie Chau), and Kam Yeuk-chin (Jacqueline Wong) and hence, the same unrelieved friendship scenes were frequent. Not to mention, Annie was paired with Edwin, Chrissie with Steven (as his concubine), and Jacqueline with Kenneth, so what mainly dominated the screen were romantic scenes of these pairs as long as Steven and Nancy’s initial lovey-dovey scenes which soon become quite cheesy and greatly degraded the maturity of the drama as a whole. If that isn’t enough, the heads of the Imperial Household Bureau had very tedious lines with the rhyming and petty arguing that slowed down the pace even more, and those scenes can hardly be considered as comic relief. Upon reflection of the drama, it felt like nothing really happened: the mystery cases were unimaginative and did little to add suspense to the story and the plot fell into a cycle of failed attempts to overthrow the Emperor. The plot was poorly balanced with 2 sudden deaths of Chrissie and Jacqueline at the end in one episode. These deaths did not hold much significance either, and the fact that we were not too bothered by them shows that the characters were not well-written enough to stir distraught in the viewers.

Something that we wish we saw were the designs of the 4 departments for the Empress, Concubine and when Annie Liu became Princess Ling Long. We remember the last one showed the actual drawings. This is just picky but it would have added more depth to the departments. Whereas BTROC got into the details of the bureau’s inner workings such as their duties and how people rose to different ranks, we did not see it here with all these details being skimmed over. At times, Jay forgot whose department represented what (jewelry, attire, furnishing, food) because the heads mainly quarreled about their personal issues or gossiped about the palace rumours. We got so confused with Jacqueline because we thought she belonged in the Department of Furnishings but she kept making meat buns, so we were like: “Wait she's’ in Department of Food?” which just shows how dissociated the palace maid characters were from their departments. We remember clearly in BTROC that Charmaine Sheh’s character was placed in the Department of Attire but really skilled at making jewelry. The same small traits which made characters more rich were absent here. Apologies for always bringing up BTROC, but if TVB decides to make a sequel to a show, they should be prepared for side-by-side comparisons of the two.

Generally, the characters were in considerable need of depth; we felt that we could describe most of the characters with one word adjectives. Kenneth and Edwin were unyieldingly loyal, Annie, Chrissie, and Jacqueline were kind-hearted and innocent. These repeated qualities in not one, but several characters were monotonous and a waste of the actors at hand.
With all those criticisms, you might ask us why we continued watching all 36 episodes of it. Well, we admit we are more prone to pick out faults mainly because of our preconception that the drama would be lesser than BTROC. That being said, we should be fair by mentioning some of its good qualities. As mentioned, the costumes, makeup, accessories, and set were fabulous and exquisite, and we should appreciate time and effort that the background artists and designers took to ensure the palace women looked stunning. There was a good degree of historical accuracy to the drama of events that took place like Princess Taiping’s conflict with Li Longji and her own suicide, and her being 48 years old when she died (so Alice was a suitable cast for the role). There was no one in particular that did a terrible job in acting their parts because it is understandably harder than modern dramas with the incredibly long scripts since palace dramas are so discussion-heavy. DITROC was a great improvement from ancient dramas that have aired these recent years as most of them were utterly horrible.

Performances:

Steven Ma as Emperor Xuanzong/Li Long-ji - Steven has always been a solid actor and in recent years, he’s been focusing on other projects. With the big-budget, mainland China support and producer Mui Siu-Ching, he decided to return to TVB. In all honesty, we didn’t see amazing acting from him and it was kinda lacklustre for us. We blame this mostly on the lack of character development. The backstory of him being imprisoned by Wu Zetian after his mother was captured and died was briefly mentioned. The impact would’ve been greater if they showed him going through tough times trapped alone growing into an adult. Because we missed this important element, and were brought in the story in media res where he killed Empress Dowager Wei, the audience was led to believe that Li Longji was always a righteous and fair prince. We also felt that he was fully in love with his only partner, Wang Zhen. But it turns out, once he had Chrissie’s character Chunxi and saw her goodness, he was just as happy. He didn’t really show particular favouritism either because the next morning, Wang Zhen would visit him and he’d be all smiles too. He knew Wang Zhen had already been the mastermind behind some incidents against Chunxi and still trusted her fully to take care of Concubine Chunxi when she was pregnant. That made no sense. Like you can’t blame anyone when you single handedly allowed your own kid to be killed. Steven was adequate but it felt like he would just deliver for the scene, if he was supposed to be angry then he was angry. It felt disjointed because one minute, he knew about Wang Zhen who planned the fire at this building while Concubine Chunxi was inside. The next minute, he would still visit her. Also didn’t know why he only had two wives when Li Longji was known to have the most concubines in history keeping thousands of them in the palace. The end scene where it was revealed that he killed Yuen Yuet’s older sister was perhaps aimed to reveal that he was not that “righteous” and had an evil side, but we thought it was a poor choice to achieve this goal. It was not really baffling to see him kill a palace maid. Since he already killed Empress Dowager Wei in a coup in the first scene, it was already established that he had the capacity of evil, and thus, the reintroduction of this quality wasn’t effective at all.

Nancy Wu as Wang Zhen - The double TV Queen was also alright in the drama. She didn’t really steal the spotlight or anything though. To us, Nancy failed to have that “evil cunning look” that Tavia in BTROC portrayed so well and fell short in making a memorable character. Her schemes were so easy to see through and they were overused as well. Like climbing on a faulty ladder and falling to lead to a miscarriage is so overdone. We were not surprised with anything and if the story writers had spent more time developing intricate schemes, it would be more fun to watch. The thing that everyone was most excited about were her costumes, we thought the best one was the one below because of the green background paired with the peonies. Some of the other ones were too extravagant with a lot of colours. We definitely see the difference between her early costumes and the ones as an Empress. The earlier ones were lighter in colour and more feminine, it made her look softer and less menacing. The high and erect necklines of the Empress costumes were more harsh to us. Perhaps this helped with her growing hatred and love for drama in order to get what she wanted. It seems like Nancy has yet to find another role for a breakthrough because we didn’t think this did it for her.



Kenneth Ma as Yam Sam-Shu - This is Kenneth at his most wooden in recent years. He said it was a personal acting choice for the character to show how serious Sam-Shu was. When he saw his brothers or his lover do something wrong or something bad happens to them, he is able to show more emotion as a stronger contrast. The most action for this character was in the beginning episodes showing his sword fighting skills and kung fu, especially protecting Emperor Ruizong/Tai Shang Huang. Again nothing spectacular from his performance and no character development at all besides completely losing respect for Nancy Wu’s Wang Zhen. We suppose acting opposite of Jacqueline Wong gave him more opportunities to be into the romantic relationship between their characters. Also, why did he only have like 3 costumes throughout the entire drama, unless you count the innocent white one with young Nancy? Edwin had even more than him particularly at the end, they all came out of nowhere lol. Complete disorganization from the costume department.





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Alice Chan as Princess Tai-Ping - Most of the performance reviews praised Alice for stealing the spotlight from everyone else with her big entrances and ambitious plans to become another Wu Zetian. Perhaps Alice showed the biggest range of acting from her menacing stares to the love and grief for her first husband. She was entertaining as Tai-Ping, the only funny thing was that her brother Emperor Ruizong was pretty blind to her schemes and once he found out and let her leave the Imperial Palace, she was welcome with open arms again. We were disappointed with the ending scene when she brought a casket supposedly containing Edwin’s corpse. It was obvious that he did not die and it seemed silly for princesses, servants of the ladies and such to burst into the ‘court’ where noblemen discussed political matters for that time period. We would assume that ladies were not generally allowed into the ‘court’. Of course she showed herself as a ruthless enemy but in the end, was she more evil or was Wang Chen more evil?

Edwin Siu as Ho Lei - We thought Edwin was pretty good here and has gotten rid of his OTT acting since he first started getting noticed in BTROC. He provided as the comic relief for the serious brotherhood with Steven and Kenneth’s characters. We really aren’t surprised that TVB’s scriptwriters decided to ‘twist’ the plotline and add him as the long lost son of Emperor Ruizong. They always pull this type of stuff. Heck we weren’t surprised with any of their usual antics. We don’t have too many comments on his performance, it was ok and looked like he got the better deal for costumes lol.

Annie Liu as Yuen Yuet - This is our first time seeing her act and honestly her accent didn’t bother us too much even though there were a lot of netizens complaining about it. What mattered more to us was how her character was written. She was a little annoying at first, getting into so much trouble but we warmed up to her. It was a pleasant surprise for us and she could still play cute roles despite her age. We particularly enjoyed the younger versions of the two sisters living through poor conditions. It was very cute and touching given the circumstances. The whole transformation into Princess Ling Lung detracted from the 4 departments and its operations though and it’s something that we wanted to see more of. She was still the same person and the performance continued as per usual with stronger friendships with Chrissie Chau and Jacqueline Wong’s characters.

Chrissie Chau as Concubine Chunxi - She appeared in the last half of the drama as Princess Taiping’s favourite niece and later became a concubine. Everyone thought she would be Annie’s long lost sister but it turns out, they’re just good friends. We were disappointed (must be like the 5th time we’ve said this) with her stiff acting and straight regurgitation of the script. There’s already been a lot of backlash about her acting online so we won’t continue it here. If anything, it had to do with her lack of experience in historical dramas and also lack of understanding of the lines, therefore she couldn’t deliver as she normally does. Her actions were quite stupid as well, like going to poison Wang Zhen … you would think someone would learn after so many close calls. But the scriptwriters just let that slide and wrote her as some naive girl through her entire life.

The other supporting characters all did pretty well and Jacqueline actually got a lot of screentime. We thought she did alright and it’s nice exposure for her as well.

All in all this was an alright drama. But not too exciting and actually kinda boring after a while. The schemes ended in the same way, someone would come in and sacrifice for their loved one who was being blamed. Like Willie Wai’s eunuch role for Lady Nam Kung played by Akina Hong. Then Jacqueline’s character had to be punished for Kenneth’s character walking into Chrissie’s character during a bath. This drama faltered in its story, as with most recent TVB dramas. Our final rating for this drama is 7.5/10.

Thanks for reading our drama review! Let us know what you think about the drama!

-Cee and Jay

*All pictures are from tvb.com 

Comments

  1. I dropped this drama at Episode 25, I couldn't stand the drag, and the rhyming, that just made the whole drama weird. TBH I find every lady role in this drama wrongly cast (except Alice Chan) I think she is the only one in TVB that can be Princess Taiping, but I do believe her performance is overrated.....In contrast, I have been watching Succession War, it's already at its 21st Episode, but I am still very hooked.......Ruco Chan is doing a decent job, nothing special. I like Shaun Tam in his soft scenes with Selena Lee, but I don't like him shouting.... The ladies in this drama are cast very very very well, Selena really fits in to her role, since she is very elegant, Elaine Yiu is doing an awesome job (Award opportunity), Natalie is bad to be honest, specially her voice!!!!!!!! Others are doing very good too.

    I wish you guys can do a review on Sucession War, since it is a very watchable drama, and I really really like it!

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  2. Hello Ivan! Thanks for reading our review! We agree that this drama was very underwhelming especially given the cast and budget of the production. Unfortunately we have yet to continue watching Succession War. Whilst we found the scenes to be much better shot with better sets in Hengdian and a more serious tone to it than DITROC, we found the plot to be a little slow and boring. We don't really like Shaun Tam's intense, murderous stares and constant yelling. It doesn't show much range, granted it is his first TVB drama. We agree that Natalie has lost her touch and probably it's because she doesn't have much experience with ancient dramas. She sounds very modern in her dialogue and all her characters seem to be the same. Having said that, both Selena and Elaine have been doing well in their characters. Ruco has been doing a decent job as you said and we had no doubts that he would. This reminds us of his role in Captain of Destiny as the 11th prince, same dynasty and same look pretty much. We don't think we will be continuing the drama as Jay has been too busy to watch anything and I have been watching the re-run of Detective Investigation Files from the 90's that has been far more entertaining.

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    1. Hey Cee,

      Thanks for replying to my comment! I just finished the last two episodes of this drama, and I really do encourage you to finish it. Everything is very quite unbelievable. The whole drama towards the end is very exciting with Ruco using and tastics.... I also believe even with the set of 1 episode being 1 day, the pace is also quite fast (the opposite with Deep In The Realm Of Conscience) which is very slow paced that makes the whole drama very boring and sluggish. I think this drama is one of the best dramas of 2018, but Threesome is still my favorite drama of this year, which I think you guys have finished, please try to do a review on it, because I believe it is one of the few dramas this year that is fun and entertaining, the script writers also put a lot of effort to make the script fun and bouncy. Just like the last half of Sucession War. I do agree that Shuan Tam's acting needs work, but I believe that no one else in TVB will fit to play his role. After I heard that Tony Hung was suppose to play his role, I believe using Shuan Tam is a good choice :)

      Ivan

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    2. Hello Ivan, I am in the midst of finishing the drama after your recommendation. We are also currently working on a review of it as well, please stay tuned and check for when it's posted. As for Threesome, I have only watched bits and pieces of it. We would have to wait for Jay to be more free to finish a review. In the meantime, we have been watching The Story of Yanxi Palace as well. What else are you watching?

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    3. Hi Cee,

      Thank You for replying to my comment again! Currently, I have been watching Who Wants A Baby, starring Ali Lee, Chris Lai, Samantha Ko, Lenna Yeung & Claire Yiu. Ali Lee and Chris Lai play a couple that accidentally has a baby, this drama talks about how Ali Lee has matured, as well as the baby aging into a toddler. It is a decent drama to watch, with a lot of strong performances! I do not enjoy watching mainland productions, so I will be skipping Story Of Yanxi Palace, even if I have heard a lot of good reviews about it. I hate watching dramas passing 30 episodes, and I think the Story Of Yanxi Palace has 70 episodes, so that's why I will be skipping it. I am actually looking forward to The Stunt, because of the theme.

      Ivan

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    4. Hello Ivan,

      I have finished a review on Succession War! Not sure if you've had a chance to look but we have finished the drama because you had such a positive review on it. We have heard that the Baby drama has some good performances but we didn't like the theme too much so decided to skip it. Usually we don't watch shows centered on parenting haha. Thanks again for checking out our blog!

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    5. Hi Cee,

      I read your review for Succession War, I actually agree on all of the things you have said!

      Ivan

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  3. This was an awful, cheap ancient Chinese drama. The palace took place in the same location as the drama Legend of Lu Zhen. 98% of the story took place inside the palace. They talked about Princess Taiping and her rebel armies, but we never once seen them! Almost all characters in the story were hypocrites. The little boy at the beginning of the story was stripped off from his emperor title. I thought Li Longji was kind to the boy, but obviously he also wanted the throne to himself. He is no different from Empress Wei, Princess Taiping, or even his own wife. Also his father when was emperor, he didn't do anything significant. The main actress, Yuen Yuet, suddenly got promoted/appointed into a princess. I have never seen any historical Chinese drama where someone comes from a poor background and was promoted with a princess title. You could only climb your way up as a concubine to a consort then an empress. Despite her being a princess, she held no real power and her role was unrelated to the story (it didn't make sense whatsoever). Also the main guy, Ho Lei, turning out to be prince at the end. What a joke! This story is definitely full of shits. The only person I sympathized with in the story is commander, Yum Sam-shu. He was the only innocent character with a pure heart.

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